Author        Topic: Gallop Racer 6 - Japan Announced
Lure
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Registered: Jun 2002        posted 07-08-2002 06:03 AM

Just wanted to let everyone know that Tecmo Japan just announced Gallop Racer 6 for Japan. It is still in development though. I am assuming that it would be released for end of year in Japan. That means that Gallop Racer 2002 should be out in the US next year...here is the only link that I can see in regards to a couple screen shots. Hold on to your hats though....the Jockey Management screen looks a little kiddish for my liking......See for yourself.
www.gallopracer.net/shinsaku.htm
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skippinaway
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Registered: Jul 2002        posted 07-08-2002 06:35 AM

the racing screens look good but i agree about the horse management screen, it does look kiddish.
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Miss Morgan
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Registered: May 2002        posted 07-09-2002 12:39 AM

I am just going to echo what has already been said... WOW that bubble headed jockey and funky horse were freaky. That was rather alarming, I am not emotionally dammaged, it will end badly... That was scarrier than Cindy! For a moment I got the distinct impression that someone visited one too many hypnotherapists to have chats about Alien Abductions. You know they say this big headed grey things do genetic experiements (supposedly, assuming it is not just some massive cultural social disease) At least they dont look like cartoons during the race!
Interesting none the less though.
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giff
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Registered: Jul 2002        posted 07-09-2002 11:37 AM


I am definately hoping for a bigger variety of races and an actual announcer, just like a definately cool game final furlong.
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aveiceae
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Registered: Nov 2001        posted 07-09-2002 03:11 PM

In a lot of Japanese anime and comics, characters are sometimes drawn in a style called "Super-D" (for "super deformed"), the primary defining characteristic being the oversized head and small body... it's considered very "cute" in Japan and shows up everywhere... even Gallop Racer, apparantly.
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devil`s flare
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Registered: Apr 2002        posted 07-10-2002 02:34 AM

AAHHHHhhhh RRRRUUUUNNNNNnnnn DOMIES!
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devil`s flare
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Registered: Apr 2002        posted 07-10-2002 02:36 AM

LOL:P
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Miss Morgan
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Registered: May 2002        posted 07-10-2002 03:07 PM

aveiceae, that is STILL alarming! So what do you think? Super-D "Cute" or CREEPY?... I vote CREEPY!
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Pancho Villa
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Registered: Feb 2002        posted 07-10-2002 10:06 PM

I just read an article where the pres. of Tecmo has announced they will be concentrating on the US more as opposed to Japan in the coming year. They are even going to give Tecmo USA an almost independent operation(instead of just translating Japanese games).
Another change is that they will primarily concentrate on games for the X-BOX.
I dont know how this will affect the new GR release but hopefully in a good way.
Im going to go ahead and predict that season mode on the new GR game will be almost a carbon copy of this last game with some new horses, more crisp graphics and the races and titles from the original rienstated.
I hope Im wrong but if that is all they do to improve it I dont think Im going to buy it this time. Ill hold out and hope Derby Owners club comes about. Some company has to take a chance with a horse racing simulation sooner or later.
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Luzzi
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Registered: May 2002        posted 07-10-2002 10:12 PM

Looking Back On GR 2001 And GR 5 They Added More Features Like The Betting Portion Of The Game For The U.S. Seems History Will Repeat Itself Again... Just Give Us The ONLINE Tecmo Babies!!
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Pancho Villa
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Registered: Feb 2002        posted 07-10-2002 10:39 PM

True they did add the betting mode to the US version so I suppose there is hope.
I was more talking about the season mode though. I dont see online racing happening in the US for GR. Im not sure but I think they only offered a limited number of GR games here last year. Even though GR has a dedicated following there just arent enough of us to make online gaming worthwile yet.
Does anyone know how many copies of GR2001 sold in the US?
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Miss Morgan
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Registered: May 2002        posted 07-10-2002 11:15 PM

I think PV was right the first time, if we do see it stateside, it will most likely be a "quick and dirty" transulation of the Japanese release. But hope against hope, there is soo much potential it is kind of sad if that is all that happens. But better to hope for the best but prepare for the worst than get all excited only to be disapointed.
As for the addition of betting mode for american GR 2001... yes they added something, but it was an after thought, it FELT like an afterthought, and correct me if I am wrong, but almost NO ONE spent much time with it. You know it was like buying the car and getting a free airfreshner... the airfreshner is NOT a major bonus. (although theoretically it should get rid of that attorcious new car smell)
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MotherNature11
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Registered: Dec 2001        posted 07-11-2002 12:02 AM

Sorry PV & the rest of you who are "hoping". If you read what I posted in the Tecmo Game Counselor Forum entitled: "To TecmoUSA ... Eggo? Brian?" www.tecmoinc.com/ubb/Foru...00365.html
And the answer I received from Brian; You will see that your hopes are dashed away.
I would sooner think that what you read PV about TecmoUSA becoming independent from the parent corporation is a new hype attempt to get gamers to continue to buy the games they translate to the US Market. A normal business tactic when sales start to slip and a new ploy is needed to regain interest
This is only my pessimistic opinion of course.
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Pancho Villa
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Registered: Feb 2002        posted 07-11-2002 01:01 AM

Jeez Mothernature. Brian didnt sound too positive even about if there would be a game huh?
The article is at Gamepro.com. It talks about how Tecmo is being squeezed out in Japan and they may have no choice but to concentrate on their US releases.
I have to level with you guys there are several of the other Japanese horse racing games I have played that I would much rather see released in the US. It sucks that horse racing just isnt popular in the US.
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Lure
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Registered: Jun 2002        posted 07-11-2002 06:37 AM

I have to agree with you PV. There has been a ton of games that came out in Japan that I would love to see translated to English. G1 Jockey got translated and only given to Europe. Other great games that I wish would have been translated include Winning Post 5 (the amount of forign races - outside of Japan is awesome!) and Dream Classic 2002 - it has probably the smartest Jocks in any horse racing simulation. Let's make a derby horse for the Dreamcast as well as Derby owners club....so many GREAT games that we never see in North America...very sad.
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hotmocha
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Registered: Jun 2002        posted 07-11-2002 10:26 AM

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Originally posted by Pancho Villa:
LOL a little kiddish? What is up with the japs and there big head cartoon characters? .

"Japs"? My My, aren't you a moron. Take your racist garbage with you to your slimy rock you crawl under. Shouldn't the board administrator ban this racst idiot?
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MotherNature11
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Registered: Dec 2001        posted 07-11-2002 11:20 AM

PV
I'm no expert in deciphering "Corporate Language", and I've retired from that "rat race" several years ago... Yet,I took Brians' post to mean:
Discussions have began on whether to release another Japanese Gallop Racer game in the USA. There will probably be a new GR Racer game to bless our market within the next year. It probably won't contain any of the suggestions that have been posted as wanted to see in the new game. TecmoUSA has little to no say about the games in which are released by the parent Corporation in Japan.
From what I understand the market in Japan is fast and furious when it comes to video games - so it doesn't surprise me that Tecmo finds it difficult to remain competitive in a dog-eat-dog revolving world - as most corporation do. Still, I think that if they were in any serious trouble the interest in the US market would be compounded by much more than just a few posts. I believe you would also see a increase of interests from the moderators to clean up the posts here. Thus PV I'm led to beleve that Tecmo is alive and well in Japan and this is just the usual corporate "hype" to promote interest. Rather quite similiar to what trainer O'Brien is doing.
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Anime is very popular here in America amongst our younger generation. My nephew studies this as if it were a new type of science or something. At 17yrs he can replicate in a penned drawing almost any character that he fancies an interest in. From what he says - most Anime characters all share that large head & small body feature including very large eyes; and he believes (as he has read many times) it is the way the Japanese make fun of Americans - thinking that we have large egos thus this makes our heads big; also as we "see all" that goes on in the world we must have large eyes too. The Japanese mean no disrespect with their "humor" - so take it with a grain of salt.
If a game is translated from a Japanese one you can expect that these graphics will be a part of the game as long as the "fad" continues - you have the choice not to buy or promote it.
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Music City Racer
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Registered: Feb 2002        posted 07-11-2002 12:40 PM

Oh Hotmocha.....I sympathize with you on that one. But, If I recall several, if not a ton, of referances to us westerners as "Americans" "Yanks" "Yankees" and what not in the past and still today. I too could take any one of those referances as to be an insult or just a harmless nickname. Its when you do take it as an insult that you fuel the fires of stereotyping and stigmas. Even though Im not of Asian descent, I did kinda wonder if anyone would take offense to that remark.
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Buckeye8084
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Registered: May 2002        posted 07-11-2002 12:57 PM

I really hope this thread doesn't have to pick up where the most of them have been going and to stay on the topic. But I see the beat goes on. To many see something that may be construed as racist and jump on it like there's no tomorrow. I took the saying as short for japanese the way we abbreviate other things not the way mocha took it. Just goes along with my long winded comments earlier. People need to pick up their tears and get off their high horses in this forum and not take so may things personal. But it goes with saying that will never happen. People are going to react to something they have deep feelings and emotions about. The inevitibility of a global open forum.
As far as the big head thing. Do you guys remember in the 90's when it was huge here with sports hero's. I had like every big head tee shirt of baseball stars. I thought they were the coolest being a youngster.
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aveiceae
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Registered: Nov 2001        posted 07-11-2002 02:05 PM

I think in the past the term "Japs" was used in a derogatory way, especially in the WWII era... Maybe offhandedly, hotmocha interpreted your use of the word in a similar derogatory way, even if you didn't intend it to come off that way. Just my 2 cents..
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HighRoller2
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Registered: Jan 2002        posted 07-11-2002 02:41 PM

God help us. I thought Cindy was bad, now we've got jockeys that look like they should be in Barbie Race n Ride?! When are they going to realize we want an real live grown-up horse racing game, not a racing game for 5 year olds? When I think of how kick-*** they COULD make a game about horse-racing (complete with video "movies" of living creatures in the winner's circle), seeing that kind of stuff sickens me.
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Miss Morgan
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Registered: May 2002        posted 07-12-2002 12:50 AM

About anime...
It may be very well the way to make fun of "westerners" in japan... but remember just how much they also tend to esteem western things. I have a house in Hawaii, where there is a very large japanese community. And seeing just how much the Japanese general culture eats up fashion, EUROPEAN fashion specifically, it makes me wonder if there is an envy there as well. None of the couture botiques have immages of Japanese models, only the typical caucasian ones... whom you see so many japanese girls emulating. Also the number of "Blonde" japanese girls is rather interesting... so they may make fun of the western culture through anime, but their consuming suggests more envy than condescendtion.
Notice just how many japanese video games feature caucasian charictars. Or characters with distinctly caucasian features, the characters from Final Fantasy VII or X for just one of MANY examples. Where there is envy there is esteem!

I actually think the obsession with super-childlike or deformed characters is creepy as it is almost pedafelic. Disperportionately large heads with exagerated and round features are marks of prepubescence... videogames are fantasies, they are supposed to illustrate our IDEAL world, or our view of what an ideal world would or should be.
Now maybe it is just me (because I dont like children all that much) but My ideal world does not cellibrate extreme childlike qualities. And thus I really do not enjoy spending my "time away from ME" (which is what my video games are) in a world full of children. (that would be HELL actually).
Japanese culture is repressive and super-restrained... maybe it is their way of rebelling against the rules, and wanting to be childlike when they were not expected to obey so many rules of society all the time.
You can analize it till the cows come home (or get hit over the head and ground up to become hamburgers) but all the same for me personally, would not intentionally spend what little leasure time I have, putting my mind into a super childlike world full of ultral childlike bubble headed people.

Just my thoughts...
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willyam13
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Registered: Jun 2002        posted 07-12-2002 07:59 AM

the racing looks great, but they can leave pokemon aspect out of the game! i would also like to see professional jockeys like pat valenzuela, jerry baily, richard migilore, alex solis, mike smith, chris mcarron, jorge chavez, and eddie d
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LadyLinda
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Registered: Sep 2001        posted 07-12-2002 08:47 AM

Miss Morgan, that's a good analysis of the symbolism in Japanese anime. I love anime and collect it. I even bought a DVD player specifically to play Japanese products and learned some Japanese so I can enjoy my anime and hentai. Much of the work can be unsettling in the context of our own culture--as much of our culture is unsettling to those of others. Anime often empowers the girl/women it depicts, however, and it has interesting things to say about ... other things. None of which have to do with horse racing.
Which is the real point, I suppose. Much as I love anime--I don't want horse-racing anime! I want it to be as realistic as possible, and that includes the human portrayals. Cindy is looking better by the day.
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Miss Morgan
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Registered: May 2002        posted 07-13-2002 12:14 AM

Hey LadyLinda,
I find the stories fascinating in Anime... I dont pretend to know much about it, but I really enjoyed two or three of them (an Ex of mine collected them) there is an interesting method of storytelling in them. Princess Minokure was very cool, and some older ones like Warriors of the wind, or Gallexy express were also cool... even if at times they dont make a whole lot of sense.
I do think sometimes there is something very refreshing about entertainment from another culture. Our own style of entertainment becomes so overly predictable and stale that something from outside is refreshing (although at times very strange). Like the movie "Brotherhood of the wolf", that was a very nifty movie, which just happens to be French. Or Crouching Tiger Hiden Dragon... that movie was undeniably cool. They sort of break the old "by the numbers" formula that our own movies seem to follow, and in doing so suprise us a little.
But you know, I agree with you, we expect maturity and near photo realism in the graphics... not Pokeman or Akira! I am sure a Pokeman race style game would be something else entirely (certainly NOT a game I would either play or purchase).
And I already have the Fear Effect series (very anime-esque style) Great entertainment, NOT what I would want in horse racing though... got the horse racing game FOR THE HORSES! Ya know?
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CrazyCelt
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Registered: May 2000        posted 07-13-2002 10:16 AM

Well, if you really want to discuss anime, maybe you should move this discussion to Gamers Corner, as it is off-topic.
But, as a side note, the big eyes are not a way of making fun of Westerners. It's part of the cultural references that the Japanese ripped off whole-cloth from the Chinese when they copied their civilization. Big eyes in Chinese myth are a symbol of the gods, just like peaches are the symbols of immortality.
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