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beau1935	Impost and Guys vs. Dolls	Lead	[-]
Posts: 849 (09/07/07 10:41 AM) President League of Champions Gallop Racer 2006 USRA President SOPL International Reply Quote More My Recent Posts Message Me Connection Blocking Invite Ignore User's Posts Report Post	Tags : None Hey everybody! I am going to start performing an impost study as it pertains to the sex of the horse. As things currently stand, all horses regardless of age or sex run with the same weight, usually 125. I'm going to run test races with identical horses, except for the sex, and see if the ladies are being treated unfairly. I am going to run a series of races with all the horses carrying 125 lbs. If there is a disparity, I will start adjusting the ladies weights down until they run the same as the gents. As soon as I have completed my study, I will post the results and any recommendations for LOC3. If any of you would like to perform some tests, feel free. Just make sure that the horses are identical except for the sex. The first rule of good science is to only change 1 variable. Beau
beau1935		#1	[-]
Posts: 857 (09/09/07 4:36 PM) President League of Champions Gallop Racer 2006 USRA President SOPL International Reply Quote More My Recent Posts Message Me Connection Blocking Invite Ignore User's Posts Report Post	Early testing results suggest that there IS a disadvantage for fillies running under equal weights. Test Setup. 8 identical horses, 4 colts and 4 fillies. Test Track : Dubai Distance/Surface : 6f/dirt Impost : All 125 10 races - 8 wins by a colt, 2 win by a filly. 6 second place finished by a filly, 4 by a colt. Average margin of victory, 1 length. Impost : Colts @ 125, fillies @121. 10 races - 7 wins by a filly, 3 wins by a colt. 5 second place finishes by a filly, 5 by a colt. Average margin of victory, 3/4 of a length. Impost : Colts @ 125, fillies @ 122. 10 races - 5 wins by a filly, 5 wins by a colt. 5 second place finished by a filly, 5 by a colt. Average margin of victory, 1/2 of a length. I was surprised by the change in results with so small an adjustment considering the leg type impost testing results came out. No recommendations yet, I have to conduct testing at 8 and 12f. I also have to repeat the testing on turf. If the impost changes over distance, I will recommend AGAINST any impost change. It would be too time consuming for the Race Secretaries. Beau
BUNJI25		#2	[-]
Posts: 661 (09/09/07 5:42 PM) LOC Honorary Reply Quote More My Recent Posts Message Me Connection Blocking Invite Ignore User's Posts Report Post	I did a test for myself just for the hell of it. I created a colt and a filly (identical) i ran the colt at 125 and the filly at 99 i chose the universal cup race the colt still won by 6 lengths despite carrying 26 more lbs completely opposite of your findings
beau1935		#3	[-]
Posts: 858 (09/10/07 4:43 AM) President League of Champions Gallop Racer 2006 USRA President SOPL International Reply Quote More My Recent Posts Message Me Connection Blocking Invite Ignore User's Posts Report Post	Bunji, How many times did you run the race? Did the colt win everytime? Did you try the filly at 125 lbs to see the difference impost made? I will use the Universal Cup race in my longer distance tests to see whats going on. I use multiple horses to lessen the draw effect of the track. We may also be seeing the effects of a longer race or a small sample size. Beau
NickBrownsFan		#4	[-]
Posts: 1378 (09/12/07 7:07 PM) ORLWorld Honorary Reply Quote More My Recent Posts Message Me Connection Blocking Invite Ignore User's Posts Report Post	Ive always believed that this game does handicap the fillies. Thats why after season 1 I asked someone to research the races that are not handicapped for the weights and was willing to set up a weight system. Sadly no one took me up on the offer. The game in some races gives all horses equal weights. Others do it by age of horse and by sex. Does the game account for this? That was my question at the time. Its also when I get a race that Im running and all weights are the same no matter age or sex I dont reset them to 125.

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